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two plo hands - blockers.
  Adaptation, Jul 14 2009

***** Hand History for Game 13391711024 ***** (Full Tilt)
$25.00 USD PL Omaha - Tuesday, July 14, 04:20:20 ET 2009
Table Delhi (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: Tempos84 ( $37.08 USD )
Seat 2: Justin Bosche ( $26.67 USD )
Seat 3: Buck History ( $26.12 USD )
Seat 4: itsNugen ( $24.93 USD )
Seat 5: catfish28 ( $21.72 USD )
Seat 6: omg_you_suck777 ( $35.80 USD )
catfish28 posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
omg_you_suck777 posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to itsNugen [ 8d Kc 4s Kd ]
Tempos84 folds
Justin Bosche folds
Buck History folds
itsNugen raises [$0.85 USD]
catfish28 calls [$0.75 USD]
omg_you_suck777 calls [$0.60 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Kh, 3d, 9s ]
catfish28 checks
omg_you_suck777 checks
itsNugen bets [$1.25 USD]
catfish28 folds
omg_you_suck777 calls [$1.25 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5d ]
omg_you_suck777 checks
itsNugen bets [$5.05 USD]
omg_you_suck777 calls [$5.05 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ 6h ]
omg_you_suck777 bets [$7.57 USD]
itsNugen calls [$7.57 USD]
omg_you_suck777 shows [Tc, 9d Qs Ad ]
itsNugen shows [8d, Kc 4s Kd ]
itsNugen wins $28.78 USD from main pot
My reasoning here was this could easily be a busted flush draw, and if he had a straight, it would have been a very well hidden straight, hence he would have bet more for value. But i also had two blockers for a straight, making it less likely to have a straight. He indeed had a busted flush draw. Opponent himself was a 55/8/1.6 but only over 88 hands.

Second hand

***** Hand History for Game 13391905474 ***** (Full Tilt)
$25.00 USD PL Omaha - Tuesday, July 14, 04:29:34 ET 2009
Table DePaul (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Seat 1: gynni ( $23.55 USD )
Seat 2: itsNugen ( $28.33 USD )
Seat 3: i_smack_u ( $10.55 USD )
Seat 4: The Feed ( $25.00 USD )
Seat 5: gullfrisk68 ( $18.46 USD )
Seat 6: EzRGood ( $45.45 USD )
EzRGood posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
gynni posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to itsNugen [ 2h Ks Kd Jd ]
itsNugen calls [$0.25 USD]
i_smack_u folds
The Feed folds
gullfrisk68 folds
EzRGood raises [$0.90 USD]
gynni calls [$0.75 USD]
itsNugen calls [$0.75 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5s, Kc, 3h ]
EzRGood checks
gynni checks
itsNugen bets [$1.50 USD]
EzRGood calls [$1.50 USD]
gynni calls [$1.50 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6d ]
EzRGood checks
gynni checks
itsNugen bets [$4.00 USD]
EzRGood calls [$4.00 USD]
gynni folds
** Dealing River ** [ 9d ]
EzRGood bets [$15.50 USD]
itsNugen calls [$15.50 USD]
EzRGood shows [9c, 7h 8s 6h ]
EzRGood wins $44.18 USD from main pot
itsNugen doesn't show [2h, Ks Kd Jd ]

A horrible call by me on the river. This hand happened about 5 minute after the first, so i really didn't think it through - first i have 0 blockers, and so theres more straights in his range. Second, he bets the entire pot - making it look a lot more like value(especially considering i probably have a strong hand). His stats were the same as the first player - but bet sizing and BLOCKERS made a difference here.

All in all, i learned my lesson. I still finished up a buyin, but could have been 2....

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PLO Hand Reading
  Adaptation, Jul 13 2009

BTW for those who read this, i don't pretend to be some PLO master, i just decided to write my considerations about the game cause i needed to get my ideas straight.

Preflop ranges against your loose passive micro stakes PLO fish

VPIP 45+/PR:4, and their range is pretty much any pairs, any double suited cards, any 3 straight cards. They have such a wide range that any flop can give them a set, two pair... You don't know that much about their hand. The rare time they raise, is clearly aces, kings, or double suited high card wraps. The flop comes J43, he could easily have TT43 or something silly.

I found that against these guys who limps A LOT, your better out overlimping a large % of your range, because first they will never limp fold, and so your often pushing a small preflop equity. ie:

Villain1 has Ks7s2d4d 25.44%
Villain2 has Ac2s7h8h 33.59%
Hero has QdJcTh9d 40.97%

Something like that is really really close. Your better off waiting to the flop where you can crush him with real equity. That dosen't mean you should never raise, because QJT8 will sometimes completely crush lower wraps, but you should still be careful. With these people its simply ''which equity do i want to push the most, a 5% or a 15%.''

Again i want to make it clear that this is mainly against loose passive. Against a tag, you need to push any equity you can have, cause thats probably the only one you will have.

Anyway, thats my 2 cents.

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RIP Arturo Gatti
  Adaptation, Jul 12 2009

All time great boxing champ Alexis Arguello died 2 weeks ago and today

RIP Arturo ''Thunder'' Gatti. This man was a monster, for anyone who follows or followed boxing, he had fight of the year 4 times, one of the greatest boxing trilogy's with micky ward, and a great guy as a whole. Tough loss for montreal and new jersey. You can be damn sure he won't be forgotten

Sickest round in boxing, even non fight sport fan watched this and went O-=

PLO hand reading thoughts coming tomorrow(im a big strategy geek).

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